How to Spot Auto and Car Fluid Scams: Steering and Oil
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Auto and car repair scams affect thousands of Americans every year. Many people are scammed daily, and it does not matter what gender or color you are, because at one time in your life, YOU WILL BE SCAMMED. Unfortunately, most of these scams go unreported, usually due to the victims feeling embarrassed, as in other scams. Learn from others about how to avoid being scammed by your auto body shop, and always report these schemes; you may someone else from being scammed.
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So it was time to bring the 2005 RAV4, 2.5L engine, into the shop to have a state inspection done, and of course, maybe a minor repair or two. So I took it to my local big name brand shop, one I've been going to for a few years. I asked them to do an oil change at the same time, since I was already there. I told them the rear brake light was out, and asked if they could replace the bulb. They set about their work.
About 45 minutes later (they were busy), the mechanic tells me he has bad news. Two of the tires were dangerously close to not being able to pass, and checking them myself, I concurred. Tire damage and wear is nothing to fart around about; it's better to be safe than sorry in that case. They had the tires, so I said go ahead, and that bumped the total cost up to about $400. As if this wasn't enough, they wanted to do a power steering flush, as well as a change the gear oil in the differential. This is where I should have caught the scam, but didn't. More later on what I mean. At this point, the car passed, they have enough money, and I leave.
Two days later, I ask my gear head buddy if he might want to do the power steering flush for me, for some extra cash. He agrees and also says he'll do the differential too. At this point, I still didn't get it.
We take the car to an auto hobby shop and get to work. The power steering fluid is dark, and even worse, we find the line showing the level is actually burnt on fluid. He said another few hundred miles and the power steering pump would have failed. We took care of it and it's perfect now. (For a lot less money too.)
Here's the big one; Gear head bud gets under the car, and comes out again, scratching his head. He asks, "This isn't four-wheel drive, is it?" Of course, it's not, and then it hit me like a ton of bricks. MY CAR HAS NO DIFFERENTIAL!! It's front wheel drive. There is a four-wheel drive version of a RAV4, but not mine. My question immediately is, what did the big brand shop check to know I needed my differential oil changed? NOTHING, that's what. I think I narrowly avoided a scam by saying no to them.
I recommend to anyone that doesn't know cars well, that if a repair is not life-threatening, you say NO, and research it yourself. You can always come back and have them do it. They'll gladly take your money anyway.
These Scams are Real
Filters and Fluids, Oh My!
There is yet another scam to watch for, the dreaded filter and fluid scam. If you have never looked under the hood of your car, there's a good chance that whatever your mechanic advises needs to be done, will be done. Repair shops live off of the profits of the up-sell, that is, anything they can sell you besides what you came in for.
Here's how the scam works: the mechanic comes to visit you in the waiting room, and shows you a nasty, dirty air filter, that came out of your car. He says you need to replace it, or your engine will lose power. You agree it's very dirty, but, is that your filter? Some shops have been known to keep "special" dirty filters to show customers, just for the up-sell. The moral here is know what your filter model looks like.
The next part is the fluid scam. The mechanic visits you again, and shows you a small piece of cardboard, with four or so fluid blotches on it. He then shows you an example of "clean" blotches, so you can easily tell they need to be changed. Now, some of those fluids should be checked regularly, such as power steering, oil, transmission, and differential. If you learn to check any of these, and record when they were done, you can't be scammed. Just say no thanks, and let them try on an easier mark!
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There are some honest mechanics out there, but unfortunately these seem to be mainly the smaller operators. I've seen $500-600 per hour for labor in major garages ... imagine if they had trouble solving a problem! Let alone a 30min white lie :-s
Very useful article - much food for thought and some excellent tips
very useful hub. I know I was scammed at a shop I frequented and trusted until it came to them fixing my transmission multiple times to the tune of many dollars. Thanks for sharing.
We had an engine part replaced and when we asked to pick up the old one, it was not available. Why? It was cleaned and shined and under our hood. Scams are real. Thanks for the tips.
I'm always careful with car repairs. I don't know anything about cars but I'm also really cheap when it comes to cars. I never do the up sell. I even had one company refuse to change my oil unless I let them replace my serpentine belt (which was brand new, me and my dad installed it the week before) for liability reasons. When I refused, they refused to give my keys back and I refused not to call the police. At that point, they refused to let me leave without giving me a complimentary oil change.
I've been thinking about writing about another scam: auto sales. I learned these first hand when I was a car saleman in las vegas. Shady little mothers...
(also, like care salesmen, most auto repair managers and employees are paid on commission or have bonuses for work sold.
Thanks for publishing this very useful and helpful article, Dave.
Whenever a major repair is suggested when I bring my car in to a shop for something minor, I always tell the *potential scammer* that I don't have time now, and I'll bring the car back on another day. Then, I go home and do some research...about the suggested repair and about what online review sites have to say about the auto repair place.
This is so true. As a blonde, several people have tried to take advantage of me at car repair places over the years. One person even suggested to me that I needed turn signal fluid. LOL.. Everyone must be an educated consumer or risk being taken advantage of. Thanks so much for these tips.
As far as asking to see the old part; it's a good idea to do, and at the time of the repair it shouldn't be a problem for them to bring it out and show you. Though if you go back a day or a week later, many parts are sent back to a warehouse to be rebuilt or disposed of properly. Anything from a simple battery, to an alternator, or an entire engine.















JayeWisdom Level 7 Commenter 9 months ago
I get my car's oil change done at one of those chain "fast oil change" shops, but I stopped listening to their upsell spiels a long time ago. Now I just say, "I'll have my son check it," and stick to only the oil change. Nearly all of the time, my son will tell me that whatever was recommended as "urgently needed", isn't.
This is a sad commentary on the vehicle maintenance field. While I'm sure there are many honest mechanics, there are also too many scammers willing to take advantage of the average person not knowing much about the inner workings of a vehicle.